Blue Pit Bull Pictures: Photos of My APBT

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By Whitney05

5 months old

Vicious Pit Bull

American Pit Bull Terriers are the most vicious breed out there, right? I mean they're a danger to both children and men, alike. Ignore the statistics, they're not the least likely breed to bite; they're vicious and a hazard to any home...

Well, now let's get to the serious stuff...

Although, the "pit bull" is the is statistically, the cause of most dog attacks, the American Pit Bull Terrier, is truly the least likely to bite a human. When you get to the resources behind the numbers, you realize that the majority of the dogs that attack are either abused, starved, badly bred, or some other blend of characteristics that lead up to an attack. But, you usually don't hear about that...

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American Pit Bull Terrier

But, this isn't about dog attacks or vicious "pit bulls," it's about my Blue APBT, MIA.

For a short introduction to the American Pit Bull Terrier, the following articles will help enlighten even those skeptical about the breed.

Parents- father on left and mother on right; Litter Minus the Boys (MIA is the far left puppy)

Blue Pit Bull

Breed Description about M.I.A., my American Pit Bull Terrier.

Name: M.I.A.

Registered Name: Blue Diamond

Registered With the American Dog Breeder's Association (ADBA)

Breed: American Pit Bull Terrier

Color: Blue with white markings

Bloodline: Gotti

Born: June 4, 2007.

1 of a litter of 13 puppies- 8 females and 5 males.

Currently at 7.5 months old, she weighs 60 pounds and had an 18.5" head.

Blue Pit Bull Puppy

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7 weeks old

APBT Puppy Play

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6 weeks old

M.I.A. Plays with Bella

Her thoughts about BSL

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3 months old

American Pit Bull Terrier Apparel

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MIA and Bella

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2 1/2 months old

Sleeping on Daddy

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2 months old

MIA Plays with a stick (11 mths)

Wendy's Vanilla Frosty

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6 1/2 months old

7 1/2 months old

Sleeping in Bed

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8 weeks old

M.I.A. and Fancy Rats

M.I.A. With Her Rat Pups

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6 1/2 months old

Jade

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APBT mix (ADOPTED)

Here's my plug for APBT's, well sort of...

Name: Jade

Age: approximately 3 years

Breed: American Pit Bull Terrier mix

Color: White with red markings. Red nose.

Notes: Housetrained. Knows basic commands and will act pretty (rolls on her back and wiggles). Gets along with other dogs of all sizes and ages. Is mostly good with cats; she acts as though she wants to chase them, but with a simple "no," she stops. She currently, sleeps in the bed and is a cuddle bug.

Jade and her 7 month old puppy were surrendered after her owner committed suicide. The woman's boyfriend was in jail for a driving without a license charge. And, the woman's children did not want the dogs, so both were surrendered. They are currently being fostered.

** Adopting information, you can contact Claws N Paws. Although, in Georgia, they will ship animals, at the dollar of the adoptee. All adoption applications must be approved.

Comments

dhhdhgh 2 months ago

Blue nose pitbulls are AWSOME!,I have a blue nose pit she is really cute she is still potty training.

kelsey Bronson 5 months ago

I have an amazing Blue Pit bull he is razorsedge blood line, he looks just like the blue pit in the pictures, they are the sweetest thing i could ever ask for, i want more just have to let mine grow up a little bit, he is full of energy, and loves kids

aliyah 9 months ago

im only 10 and its my dream to become a pit bull saver and a zoologist i want to get 2 blue pit bulls 1 girl 1 boy boys name is leno gerls name is lena i never had a dog ever and never met a pit bull i used to hate em until i saw an ep of pit boss on animal planet than i fell in love all pit bull lovers must wach this show and pit bulls and proles both on animal palnet.

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eljaybe 9 months ago

If it's true that people look like their dogs then you are Beautiful, (or Handsome if you’re a Fella), just like Mia. She looks to have a lovely temperament and to be in very good health, again a reflexion on you.

As a new PBT owner I am enjoying your articles, learning from them and the comments. Many thanks.

PS. I’m so glad Mia's ears are not docked.

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Sweetsusieg Level 5 Commenter 18 months ago

All dogs will bite if provoked, it is their defense mechanism. It is up to us as humans to learn what our furry friends are trying to tell us. I have had a pit bull, she chased shadows of butterflies when it got to hot in the afternoon for the wild birds to play with her. She chased there shadows as well. She had been abused when she came to me, left in a cage to soil herself, then punished for doing so. With a little love from us, she had no lasting effects. She was a licker, and thought it was great fun to 'pin' you to the floor and lick you. If pit bulls have a bad rap, it's because of the humans who have allowed this to happen. No if's ands or butt's about it.

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Software - Photos 18 months ago

"Least likely to bite," but somehow I'd rather be bitten by a Yorkie or a pug. Conveniently ignore the fatality and face-ripped-off statistics. Your heart is full of murder.

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Whitney05 Hub Author 18 months ago

Thank you for the input. My blue APBT has no Staffordshire in her.

In all actuality though, a Staffordshire originated as a Pit Bull. The only difference is the initial name change to be associated with the AKC and sight moderations to the physical traits which have occured throughout the years.

Cam 18 months ago

There is no such thing as a purebred blue pit bull. Blue would only come from being bred with a staffordshire terrier. Just for all of you who are paying a bunch of money for a supposedly "pure bred pitbull" puppy that's blue.

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PegCole17 Level 7 Commenter 19 months ago

Loved this article. Your pictures were adorable and the information is great. We adopted a little guy in April and he looks a lot like your Mia. His companion, our 10 yo Cookie, loves to play with him too. We've shared so much joy in the past few months watching him grow and learn. Thanks for sharing your experiences with Pit Bulls.

Kirsty French 21 months ago

hey gorgeous dog! i have 2 pit bulls myself they are great with my daughter, in fact they are her best friends we enjoy them they are a lot of fun and they dont deserve the name that they have it is just a bunch of bs.

pitpei 2 years ago

have have 3 pittys an they reach my kids when cryin b4 i do

Sean 2 years ago

Nice looking dog! I have a 5 month old blue pit, named Blue, lol. He's great, I've been training him since he was 8 weeks old, he heels, sits, comes, lays down, all the normal stuff. He is fantastic with my 4 year old son and his little friends. One of the best dogs I have ever owned.

jennifer 2 years ago

You are the owner and you make the dog what it is no matter the breed! I was scared at first till I purchased a blue pure bread puppy and she is the best thing for my family we've trained her to protect and to love and thats what she does. IF YOUR DOG IS MEAN AND HAS AN UGLY ATTITUDE IT MUST HAVE LEARNED IT FROM YOU!!!!!!

Bully Mama 2 years ago

Great info Whitney !! Nice to see more responsible pit bull owners educating others about the truth behind the breed.

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Whitney05 Hub Author 2 years ago

Sounds like you just need to work on basic training. You can't expect him to come to you in a high distraction area if he doesn't know how. He won't grow out of that if you don't train him.

You can't say that the father was mean just because he was being protective of his people and home. That's being territorial not aggressive or mean, and most dogs experience this to some degree.

Positive training is going to be the best way, but if you're not experienced enough and you can't stay consistent at all times, then you'll run into problems in the long run. This should have all been started day one when you received the dog.

The dog is being protective of your daughter. I would suggest putting him in a separate room when you have to scold her. These dogs will generally try to protect the one it attaches to most, which in this case is your daughter.

These dogs are very stubborn and aren't for those who aren't willing to train and socialize constantly. Unlikely what you may have heard, the breed doesn't just flip out. You'll see signs along the way; it just takes an observant owner to detect them. Most cases that you here where the dog just flipped one day are not accurate as dogs don't do that, there are always signs. It's just that mots owners don't notice them.

IluvMyC-lo 2 years ago

I have a 7month old blue pit bull pup named C-lo. He weighs 65lbs. right now and his head is 20".I think that he is HUGE for his age.We only feed him ULTRA puppy food and give him little "scooby" snacks here and there.I also have 2 adult golden retrievers and they all seem to get along quite well.My boy golden will be 9years old this month and my girl just turned 6.Do you think they will continue to get along as C-lo gets older?I am so worried that he may just flip out one day and kill one of my goldens.He doesn't show any signs of aggression and seems to respect the older dogs quite well.I also have a 15 year old girl that C-lo seems to be very attached to and DOES NOT like it when she gets in trouble and I try to discipline her.He jumps in front of me and looks at me as to say "hey, leave my little girl alone!"what can I do to be sure we never have any probems with aggression from him? C-lo's dad is veerrry mean and he was my neighbors dog(very well taken care of and not mean at all with their family, only other people).How can I (the female) assert myself as being in control and gain his trust so that he will always listen and respect me? AND as he grows up will the smartass puppy behaviors (I>E> I tell him to come inside and he runs like as if to truck me and takes off and then comes back and then listens and comes back in the house)Whats the best and least harsh way to train my pit? I really love him sooo much and he has become an endeared member of our family. Thanks! Cyndi from Miami, FL

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Whitney05 Hub Author 2 years ago

at 8 weeks start training and be consistent. when he gets mouthy, tell him 'wrong' and put a toy or chew in the pups immediately as an alternative.

nate lbc 2 years ago

Hey i just got a baby blue,hes 2 months old and his name is Berkeley. he is my life and i have a question for anyone who wold know. what is the correct way to train him not to bite, its not getting out of control and i know he is a youngin but im just curios.

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Whitney05 Hub Author 3 years ago

Ryan she's a good looking dog. MIA's about 65 pounds now. She could lose a few pounds though.

Many shelters use other breeds to classify APBTs and bully mixes because they know many people are scared to adopt a dog that has the label of "Pit Bull mix" on its card.

Ryan Michelle 3 years ago

I cannot believe how much your MIA looks like my Bella!! Bella's almost two now, I don't know her origins bc we adopted her from the SPCA, and I think bc of her former mistreatment her growth was stunted - she weighs 45 pounds. Other than that they are so similar that all I can say is WOW! Same color, same white markings in pretty much the same spots - right down to the white triangle on the back of the neck! I have a few pics on zootoo: http://www.zootoo.com/profile/ryanmichelle2

Thanks for spreading the good word about this hugely, grossly misunderstood, slandered and libeled breed! Each dog is a unique being unto itself and no one breed deserves to be cast in the kind of light that pits have. With time and effort, responsible owners can change public perceptions - bc that's really where the problem is - with the owners. Pits are great just being themselves.

Also, in looking over above comments, I see someone was told by their shelter their new pup was a wiemereiner mix - same thing our shelter tried saying, but we knew better. I think it's bc some homeowner insurance groups refuse to cover if you have a pit...

darya.alana 3 years ago

How cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Precious!!!!!!!!!!

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Whitney05 Hub Author 3 years ago

MIA only weighs 65 pounds. Depending on Luna's bloodline she may actually stop growing substantial weight there or she may continue. MIA is a very short and stout dog, although not quite as stout as a Razor's Edge, but her bloodline is commonly bred to Razor's Edge. Do you ahve any pictures of Luna that you could upload to a online hosting service and post a link here? I'd love to see what she looks like.

You can't force growth or appetite; athough you can intice appetite, but I'm not sure what LUna's issue is, especially since she's an inside dog. Have you vet perform a check up so that you can cross out a medical issue. Also, you really do not need to let her free feed, you are potentially causing behavioral problems. As for exercise, run or jog her at least twice a day for 20 minutes (bare minimum).

itsjess37 3 years ago

your pit seems so much more filled out than mine at 6 months. Luna is right at 6 months and only weighs about 50 lbs. everyone says she is huge (vet, techs, breeders etc) but i feel that she has almost quit growing and eating. she has gotten super finicky and i am having to leave her food down all day just so she may eat an entire bowl. she stays inside so the heat of the summer should not mess with her apetite as it does outside dogs. any tips on exercise and growth and apetite?

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belief713 3 years ago

That's interesting about lab bites... would've never guessed that

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belief713 3 years ago

"That is more accurate, although, it's not impossible to have them release if you have proper control over the dog, training-wise."

I completely agree. That's why I trained our dog to let go. Not saying that they can't...

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Whitney05 Hub Author 3 years ago

More reason for me to not like labs. ;-) Thanks for the stats Casey. I'll be emailing your for more information. I'm always looking for bite stats to further my attempts at educating people about the breed.

Casey Holley 3 years ago

I would like to say that according to a recent study by the US Humane Society, Laborador Retrievers are considered more dangerous that APBTs. In the last 10 years, Labs have bitten more humans than APBTs. This study did take the seriousness of the bite into account. If you want more info, you can email me at webmaster@bluestunnakennels.com

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Whitney05 Hub Author 3 years ago

That is more accurate, although, it's not impossible to have them release if you have proper control over the dog, training-wise.

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belief713 3 years ago

OK, they may not have lock jaws, but once they've made up their minds to hold on to something, it's not usually until THEY decide to let go or are MADE to let go that they do.

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Whitney05 Hub Author 3 years ago

Pit Bulls do not have locking jaws. Please check out my myths hub about the breed:

http://hubpages.com/_apbt/hub/Truth-About-Pit-Bull

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belief713 3 years ago

I wish I would have taken that many pics of our dog when he was a puppy :( Beautiful dog, by the way. Pits are a great breed, along with many others. You've made me want to create a hub about my Red Nose pit bull Stafforshire Terrier mix.

I've had him since he was 2 1/2 weeks old and he's very socialized and around 2 young children. This breed is very loving, loyal, and protective and yes, just like any other dog breed, if they feel they or thier loved ones are in danger, they may bite. But any breed dog would, depending on tempermant and situation. This breed gets a lot more attention because of it's abuse for sport and it's lock jaw. Yes, I agree fought or abused dogs increase the odds, but I also believe the reaction by the human could create, decrease, or increase a situation.

I've had 2 other breeds, Boston Terrier (who I recently had to put down) and Dachshund. Fuego doesn't get along with the Dachshund (because he's fiesty), but overall, he was great with Qwincey (Boston).

I do support adopting, but also feel if you are going to introduce this breed to your family you either do adopt a puppy or make sure you learn the background on the dog, and if possible, sometimes someone from the Humane Society may be willing to also test his/her demeanor.

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Whitney05 Hub Author 3 years ago

I wouldn't be worried about the puppy and your kids. These dogs should be treated like any other dog. Just make sure that you train and socialize the dog. You've already had the dog around your kids before you found out that it's a APBT mix, and if it hasn't attacked yet, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Here's a very informative and helpful link towards tons of APBT hubs I've written; it had myths and other infor you'll hopefully find helpful.

http://hubpages.com/_apbt/hub/The-American-Pit-Bul

Blue Pit Bull is the same as any other Pit Bull; it's not a separate breed or extension of the breed, so you've just got a regular Pit Bull mix with a blue coloring.

Just make sure that your children know how to act around dogs and as long as you keep the dog trained and well socialized, there's nothing wrong with having this breed as a family pet around children. (But the training and socializing "rule" is the same for any and all dog breeds).

Do you have a way that you could upload a picture of the dog and post a link here. I'd be interested in seeing this dog. Weimaraners and Pit Bulls have completely different appearances, and would be hard to mis-ID.

Also, would you have not adopted the puppy if the tag had said Pit Bull mix? Just out of curiousity.

Shannon 3 years ago

I have a question. My husband and I recently adopted a 5 mth old Weimaraner/lab mix puppy from a rescue shelter in Evansville, IN. We just found out that the pup is NOT a Weimaraner/lab...but a blue pitbull mix. We were a little shocked. We are not totally against pitbulls, however we do have 2 small children (3 and 5). My question is, should we be concerned with the animal and our kids?? We do not know anything about blue pitbulls and would appreciate any info on the breed!! She is timid, but not aggressive. Are there any specific warning signs we should be on the lookout for??

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Whitney05 Hub Author 3 years ago

Oh I definitely agree. Thank you for leaving a comment.

mallory 3 years ago

i love your pit! i have a male pit (red nose) that looks the same as yours. his name is ralfie! I love him and i hate how people are so eager to bash the pit breed. Pits can be the sweet or mean its just how they are raised.

VinceSamios 3 years ago

Pittys are so cute - in a crazy child killing way :-) Come rob my backyard - I dare you!

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sdorrian 4 years ago

Great Hub! Youir Pitty is a super cutie pie! APBTs are great dogs. Keep spreading the word!

Mandy 4 years ago

We own three pit bulls. We also have three children in the house. Its not the breed that has given these beautiful animals a bad rep. Its the people who raise them. Any animal will be mean no matter what the breed is if you raise them to be that way. Dogs are mean because people raise them to be. let me tell you all, My three dogs are wonderful. They are very loving and very eager to please. They play with my kids all the time they even put there hands and arms in there mouth and they are so gentle about it there isn't even a scratch or a red mark to be found. Some people are just ignorant to the breed. If only people could see the potential of these animals. How amazed they would be.

Lendsey 4 years ago

MIA is too CUTE! I'm getting a blue APBT female in a couple of days and after watching MIA I just can't wait to get her. Her name is going to be Hannah. She looks a lot like MIA. I'm constantly defending their breed to my family and friends. Bad breeding and bad people have really gave the APBT a bad rep. I worked at a Veterinary clinic for 6 yrs and not one Pit EVER tried to bite us. Some were aggressive towards the other animals especially the cats, but NONE towards us. Thanks so much for the video and pics! They're great!

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Whitney05 Hub Author 4 years ago

Zannr it's great you want a dog, but you must remember that the APBT is not a true terrier. Although, it has terrier influence, it cannot really be grouped with terriers such as the Yorkshire terrier, Jack Russell terrier, etc. You must be prepared for longterm training and socializing with this breed. Although, they catch on quickly, you must be prepared for everything. They're not as simply put as other dog breeds.

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zannr 4 years ago

Man, I want a dog sooooo bad. Right now I can't get one, but I'm thinking in the next year I'll get one. I'm thinking of getting a Pit Bull Terrier now because of your article. I love terriers in general.

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amy jane Level 1 Commenter 4 years ago

Hi Whitney,

MIA is a beauty! She looks so much like (one of) the pit pups my family had when I was growing up. They are such a wonderful breed when properly raised and loved. Great Hub!

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Whitney05 Hub Author 4 years ago

HaHaHa. That's what my parents keep saying. You forget what is not shown in this hub- near 40 reptiles and 2 other dogs. Ha. I used to have 3 chinchillas as well, but unfortunately they passed last year; I'm still waiting on their necropsy results, as it was unexpected.

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Isabella Snow 4 years ago

My God, your house is a zoo!! :)) Great pics!

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Whitney05 Hub Author 4 years ago

Thank you embitca. :-) I've heard it, but I don't think it's something that a rescue needs to base part of their application on. As, not every bully breed dog is the same, and some may not get along with the same sex and some don't. It's all dependent on the individual.

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embitca Level 1 Commenter 4 years ago

Love the pictures of your dogs. Mia ha a gorgeous face!

I've been told that about the opposite sexes as well, but when I had two they were both the same sex and got along great. I've only got one now and she does tend to get along with opposite sex dogs better, but it isn't 100%. It just really depends on the dog, I think.

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mads78 4 years ago

Your hub is so cute! I enjoyed seeing all of the pictures. Dogs are so awesome...I think anybody that doesn't like them is just not right!

Jill (mads78)

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Whitney05 Hub Author 4 years ago

Maddie- I fully understand. I volunteered for over 5 years with rescue shelters, but when it comes to APBT, unless I know the story and backgroung of the dog, I would prefer a well bred one. I did search several rescues in the throughout the state of GA, and could not find one with a pup that was right. When I did, it was with an APBT rescue, they denied my application because I was inquiring about a female puppy and already have a female dog. They believe APBTs only get along with opposite sex, which was news to me as it's not always the case.

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Maddie Ruud Level 4 Commenter 4 years ago

Though I don't support dog breeding on principle, as there are so many loving dogs that need adopting, I must say I prefer it to the puppy-mill brand of dog "production." I have two mutts that I adopted full-grown (even those who lean towards adoption often prefer pups, leaving the dogs in their young adulthood or older years neglected), and I adore them both.

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RFox 4 years ago

The only song that immediately came to mind was "Love Is In The Air" by Tom Jones....guess it's my twisted sense of humor..hahaha

I'm usually more of a rock girl myself but now I have Tom Jones stuck in my head!

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jaymz 4 years ago

Very cute dog. I used to have a fawn with white markings, but sadly he was stolen over a year ago. I still miss him. I'd love to bring home another Pit, but currently, I've got too much going on to bring in a dog. :-(

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Paper Money 4 years ago

Hi Whitney, Great Hub and Pics. The bad name they get is a typical result of generalizing statistics without looking at the facts behind the figures.

About editing try Animoto.com. Not sure if they use video or just pics but they do have a lot of music to choose from and their editing is great.

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Whitney05 Hub Author 4 years ago

Thank you Zsuzsy, Froggy, and RFox. She is my baby, and I love her no matter what. I strongly aggree and will fight that not all of these dogs are bad. My parents were iffy and at first didn't want to get an APBT, but after some pleading, they agreed. And know, my dad sees the truth. My mom's still got all the bad rap in the back of her head, but she loves the dog none-the-less. And, it's not like my parents have never spent time with the breed, they have, when I volunteered for a shelter, but it's different bringing a bully breed home. I understand, but it's kinda a life goal, to change as many people's mind about the breed as I can. Pathetic, but all I want is justice for them (all bully breeds).

RFox, she loves those rats. I can barely get alone time with them, unless I shut her out of the room. It's sad. I've ben waiting to publish this until I was able to get that video; it was one my digital video camera, and I couldn't get it off until I bought a plug for my computer. I just wish I could figure out how to better edit it with music. Any music suggestions?

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arrow sheds 4 years ago

I think the owners can make any dog mean. Its a shame this breed is used for fighting. When I see them on tv being removed from a bad situation , it is really heartbreaking.

Thanks for seeing them in a different light.

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RFox 4 years ago

I love the rat pics and video...SO cute! My Cairn Terrier would have swallowed all 3 rats in a matter of seconds. Her prey drive towards rodents is just too strong.

Your pup is a sweetie. BTW my cousin breeds Staffies and they are 'nanny' dogs. He has 4 young boys. Two are twins with a penchant for getting into trouble. Isabella (their dog) allows the kids to take her pups away from her and cart them around the house. She adores children and is one of the most placid dogs I've ever seen. They now have one of her adult pups with them as well. So 2 Staffies and 4 kids and not an issue between them. :)

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Froggy213 Level 4 Commenter 4 years ago

Have to agree Whitney,I too have a American Pit Bull.She is absolutely beautiful,great around children.Much of the bad rap comes from the owners.If you are not capable of properly training,loving,caring for them they are great pets.Oh and yes she would bite only if someone attacks my wife or I,or if I in my special way tell her to.

She comes from a very good bloodline Sire was The Brick Farm's Brick Built and Dam was The Brick Farm's Puddin---out of The Brick Farm's Blue---

She is such a good dog if a child starts towards the road she will block them and lead them back---never has she tried to bite anyone.

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Zsuzsy Bee Level 3 Commenter 4 years ago

Great pictures!

regards Zsuzsy

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stephhicks68 Level 6 Commenter 4 years ago

I love these dogs! Its a shame when they get a bad rap either from poor owners or poor training (or both). I am outraged that some municipalities actually ban them.

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JerseyGirl 4 years ago

Loved your hub, the photos and info! Packed with great info! Thanks for sharing.

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Whitney05 Hub Author 4 years ago

Steph- It is true the breed has been called a "nanny dog" in the past. It's just so unfortunate about their current rep. Staffordshires, AmStaffs, and APBTs have all been referred to as "nanny dogs."

I do see the resemblence of "pit bull" in the pup in your picture. Very cute dog.

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stephhicks68 Level 6 Commenter 4 years ago

So cute! I agree that pits can get a bad rap. We had a Staffordshire Bull Terrier years ago (the English breed - not Am Staff). We were told by his breeders that they are called "nanny dogs" in the UK. Hershey was always very gentle with our kids. Now, our dog Garrett (photo with me), we adopted from the Humane Society, and they think he has some pit bull in him. But a super, super dog. Love the hub and photos. Steph

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